Posts by Star Moore

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God shunned all, but Jews and christians with the correct understanding?

by Star Moore in

the bible says that the jews were god's chosen people.

yes, but does that mean that all other people were nothing to him, unless they were associated with the nation of isreal?

a thought: what if god just chose the nation of isreal for the purpose of bringing the messiah to earth and was still with the good people in all the other religions?

Star Moore

Hello friends in Christ: XJW4EVR and A Guest.... I was thinking of us having different view of the definition of a Jew so I looked it up in the American Heritage Dictionary: Jew: An adherent of Judaism. or A descendant of the Hebrew people. or after the tribe of Judah. So, what I'm thinking is the old definition or the technical definition..is from the tribe of Judah but now is refered to as any Isrealite.

The issue is not that god didn't want to have anything to do with the "good" people of other religions, but rather to bring them into a complete relationship with Himself. He did this be illustrating that no amount of "goodness" could ever remove the taint of sin from their souls.

XJW4: So this is another reason...good point! AGuest...And peace to you. I'm a person of peace myself..if possible that is ...

Well, although many do, I can't see why we would. Indeed, the Jews are from among the 12 tribes, but at least 10 of those tribes are not Jews. W hy call them something they are not? And would it not offend them to do so?

I am thinking that sometimes both the tribe of Judah and the other of the 2 tribes (I forgot which one it was) are both called Judah..when the tribes were divided 2 and 10. So maybe because Judah was where the ark of the covenant was, it could represent (after a time) the whole nation..as though it was the capital...What do you think?

JAH allowed the record of their lineage to be destroyed because they were trusting in it more than in Him. They became haughty because of their bloodline (to Abraham) and as a result, ended up being scattered and interspersed among all walks of peoples,

I liked this point, I was thinking about the theory about Mary Magdalene settling in France and how Jesus' child could have carried on the bloodline and now could be European.. wow..(just a theory) but fun to think about as I from over there yonder.lol

That is one of the reasons why we must learn to love our enemies: we do not know in whom Abraham's blood resides, whether "Jew" or "Greek." Nor does it matter. But it does matter if we treat another poorly… and such one happens to turn out to be a brother of Christ… whether by means of blood (Abraham's)… or spiritual Jews..

Yes, good point, I remember the scripture about being hospitable to all for we may be entertaining angels...yes...You and I could even be a Jew and not know it right? Your sister in Christ,

		Mar 25, 2006

		Mar 25, 2006

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God shunned all, but Jews and christians with the correct understanding?

by Star Moore in

the bible says that the jews were god's chosen people.

yes, but does that mean that all other people were nothing to him, unless they were associated with the nation of isreal?

a thought: what if god just chose the nation of isreal for the purpose of bringing the messiah to earth and was still with the good people in all the other religions?

Star Moore

So, SJ Is it okay to call all 12 tribes, Jewish now???? Being as we don't know what tribe anyone is from?

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God shunned all, but Jews and christians with the correct understanding?

by Star Moore in

the bible says that the jews were god's chosen people.

yes, but does that mean that all other people were nothing to him, unless they were associated with the nation of isreal?

a thought: what if god just chose the nation of isreal for the purpose of bringing the messiah to earth and was still with the good people in all the other religions?

Star Moore

Wow..thanks SJ Really helped...clearer understanding for me....Star

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Is there depression in the new system???

by hallelujah in

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cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.

dan

Star Moore

Hey Hallelujah: I don't think that the end is going to be mountains of dead bodies..like the Wt teaches. I think Jesus is the 'prince of peace' and love and will give people every opportunity to change on his 2nd coming..and work with people to help them see the light or the right way. JW's teach, I guess, that Jesus will come floating on a cloud and zapping anyone who isn't a witness...Not!!!!! LIke an instantaneous type of thing...I also think the new order will not have depression.

whatacoincidence :depression in the spiritual paradise thus depression in the new system

you are getting the WT mixed up with the truth...BIG MISTAKE

Hall....: You don't really want to say Satan = Jehovah, do you?

I hate Kingdom Melodies..sure glad there not the truth..kingdom mel..forever would be hell.

Yes, the Catholics are much better that the witnesses right now, anyways.. I'm going to visit one this week. More freedom of choice. Yes!

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Diary of an Unborn Child - switch your rational mind off for ten minutes.

by nicolaou in

this article from awake!

in may 1980 is an example of the worst sort of emotional argument.

i'm just going to post it, barf, and then comment later.. *** g80 5/22 p. 16 ***.

Star Moore

Very cool, Hallelujah...

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"Turned aside after Satan."?

by scout575 in

the nt contains several references to christians abandoning christianity.

they are referred to as having "turned aside after satan" ( 1 tim 5:15 ), as being like "the dog that is turned to his own vomit.

" ( 2 peter 2:22 ), as being the "enemies of the cross of christ" ( php 3:18 ), and as being "not of us" ( 1 john 2:19 ).

Star Moore

Scout, I looked up the scriptures you quoted. Here are some of the reasons...behind the scriptures...

"turned aside after Satan" ( 1 Tim 5:15 ), This one was talking about single women who were going from house to house, slandering and being busy bodies.. he was advising them to marry, if that's what they were doing.

as being like "the dog that is turned to his own vomit." ( 2 Peter 2:22 ), This one is talking about people who returned to the corruption of the world..

"enemies of the cross of Christ" ( Php 3:18 ), This one is refering to ones who have their mind on eartly things and their god is their stomach.

and as being "not of us" ( 1 John 2:19 ). This one is talking about ones that had come out from among them who was denying the son and therefore did not have the father, and he labled them the antichrist.

I think it's good understand the context, for is isn't just ones who had left christianity..except the last one....is one who had left christianity.

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GB claims divinity for anointed

by hallelujah in

in the "insight on the scriptures" book at page 474 and 639 the wtbts states that the anointed are divine in nature.

divine in strong's hebrew lexiconography is defined as sovereign, and in greek lexiconography as theos, or godhead or divinity (see strong's lexicon excerpts below the excerpts from insight book).. divine.

nature.

Star Moore

Hello gang.. Dan, don't you think that the 'other sheep' would be the gentiles..? As he was talking to the Jews? When do you think a person becomes born-again..Do you think it is synonomis with baptism? It seemed with me it came to me briefly after I had been a believer and baptized for about 6 years as a JW...and then it came strongly for me 6 years ago.. so that's when I started partaking. When it 1st came to me, I simply said, it had to be 'demons'. Because I wasn't an old lady and in the bible for long. So I pushed it in the back of my mind. But I couldn't ignore it 6 years ago.. Do you think the '144,000' (symbolic or not) are only jews or spiritual jews? Then who do you think the great crowd is.. I think it's going to be people from every walk of life and every religion..even atheists..with the good and honest .

What do you think???

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The Trinity... is it a false teaching as the WTBTS claims?

by Honesty in

in the old testament god revealed himself to his chosen people, the israelites as i am:.

ex 3:14-15 - god replied to moses, i am who i am.

this is what you are to say to the israelites: i am .

Star Moore

Hey Honesty, I agree with you 100% ... that's exactly how I feel about our Lord...Jesus

Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Amen!

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GB claims divinity for anointed

by hallelujah in

in the "insight on the scriptures" book at page 474 and 639 the wtbts states that the anointed are divine in nature.

divine in strong's hebrew lexiconography is defined as sovereign, and in greek lexiconography as theos, or godhead or divinity (see strong's lexicon excerpts below the excerpts from insight book).. divine.

nature.

Star Moore

opps, I meant to say the great crowd...The other sheep are probably the gentiles..as he was talking to the jews...

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GB claims divinity for anointed

by hallelujah in

in the "insight on the scriptures" book at page 474 and 639 the wtbts states that the anointed are divine in nature.

divine in strong's hebrew lexiconography is defined as sovereign, and in greek lexiconography as theos, or godhead or divinity (see strong's lexicon excerpts below the excerpts from insight book).. divine.

nature.

Star Moore

The interesting thing about the claim of the anointed is that it is an exclusive doctrine. For the anointed to be elect, everyone else must be unelect. So it's not so much about what the GB claims for the anointed as for what they say about the other sheep.

Hi Hallelujah..You must be a christian? Your name. I'm thinking it sounds elite for people to call themselves, anointed.. I'd rather say, I've had a born-again experience..but then i sound like a born-again.. I've been thinking the other sheep, might be the people who Jesus saves at the great tribulation who are not true christians..but people of every religion, nation, even atheist but have a good heart... and want peace and justice and take a stand for the Christ without them even realizing it. What do you think?